Topic: A tag for subs/bottoms rimming tops/doms

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

milochu94

Member

I don't know if this is the correct category but I've been wanting a tag for bottoms rimming tops. When searching for "-female rimming duo" 90% of the results are tops rimming bottoms and there's no reliable way to filter those out to only get the ones where bottoms are rimming tops. What would be a good name for the tag?

dba afish

Member

aacafah said:
There is small_top_big_bottom, although those roles seem wildly underdeveloped to me.

that tag's for the larger character of a pair being the one that's penetrated. we generally tend to use the definitions of "top" and "bottom" that refer to an individuals role in penetrative sex when doing tags.

the tag serves the same function as larger_penetrated. there's a bur to clean these up, but it hasn't been accepted yet.

milochu94

Member

eightoflakes said:
What do bottom and top mean in this context? Do you have TWYS-compatible definitions of "bottom" and "top"?

bottom is the gay male that gets penetrated, top is the gay male that does the penetrating. I need a reliable way to look for images where the bottom is rimming the top. I'd post examples but I forgot how to embed

Watsit

Privileged

milochu94 said:
bottom is the gay male that gets penetrated, top is the gay male that does the penetrating. I need a reliable way to look for images where the bottom is rimming the top. I'd post examples but I forgot how to embed

A tag like rimming_while_penetrated?

Watsit

Privileged

milochu94 said:
Ok here are some examples

Be aware that e621 uses TWYS, meaning we tag according to what's seen in the image. For posts like
post #5383929
post #5003332
that's just rimming, perhaps with some profanity or dirty_talk. We don't tag based on whether a character would normally take or give dick in other images, just what we see them doing in the post. rimming_while_penetrated may be the best you can get, and a tag for a character that gets penetrated in one part of an image or animation and rims in another part may be too specific compared to what we already have.

milochu94

Member

watsit said:
Be aware that e621 uses TWYS, meaning we tag according to what's seen in the image. For posts like
post #5383929
post #5003332
that's just rimming, perhaps with some profanity or dirty_talk. We don't tag based on whether a character would normally take or give dick in other images, just what we see them doing in the post. rimming_while_penetrated may be the best you can get, and a tag for a character that gets penetrated in one part of an image or animation and rims in another part may be too specific compared to what we already have.

so there's no way I'll be able to reliably filter out tops rimming bottoms who are the majority of gay rimming images?

Watsit

Privileged

milochu94 said:
so there's no way I'll be able to reliably filter out tops rimming bottoms who are the majority of gay rimming images?

Is it? I mean, I don't explicitly look for it, but from what I have seen, I wouldn't have guessed "tops"/"doms" are more commonly rimming "bottoms"/"subs" than the reverse.

milochu94

Member

watsit said:
Is it? I mean, I don't explicitly look for it, but from what I have seen, I wouldn't have guessed "tops"/"doms" are more commonly rimming "bottoms"/"subs" than the reverse.

yes overwhelmingly. The only tag I've been able to find that does the job is forced_rimming but that only covers forced and not all instances of bottoms rimming tops. Would it be too much for me to ask for a tag to be made to do this job? I'd be more than happy to tag a lot of the ones I know that fit, because a lot of tops I've talked to agree that a tag should exist because even they find it difficult to search for these images

EightOfLakes

Member

milochu94 said:
so there's no way I'll be able to reliably filter out tops rimming bottoms who are the majority of gay rimming images?

Your definitions of top and bottom seem to be based more on your own personal judgement rather than what is actually depicted in any given post (only two of your examples show a character penetrating or recieving, and none of them show them doing so while rimming another). This site's tag system is designed to let you search for and filter content based on what a post appears to depict. A tag for a character rimming another while recieving would easily be justified (and already exists), but it's harder to conclude if a character continues to be a "bottom" once they've stopped recieving. Especially considering that they may in fact be penetrating their partner with their tongue once they start rimming, which would make them the top under your definitions.

milochu94

Member

eightoflakes said:
Your definitions of top and bottom seem to be based more on your own personal judgement rather than what is actually depicted in any given post (only two of your examples show a character penetrating or recieving, and none of them show them doing so while rimming another). This site's tag system is designed to let you search for and filter content based on what a post appears to depict. A tag for a character rimming another while recieving would easily be justified (and already exists), but it's harder to conclude if a character continues to be a "bottom" once they've stopped recieving. Especially considering that they may in fact be penetrating their partner with their tongue once they start rimming, which would make them the top under your definitions.

as much as I'd like to destroy the tag what you see argument I'm sure many have already done it before. That said any gay furry male would agree that the images I posted are bottoms rimming tops. Or subs rimming doms. I'm using the two interchangeably here. My definitions were vague because I'm going under the assumption people know what I'm talking about. Forced_rimming is the only tag that gets me what I want but it doesn't cover all images that I'm looking for

Aacafah

Moderator

Hi, gay furry male here; I don't know if I agree. It's not uncommon for doms to demand a rimming as part of the power dynamic, especially for facesitting. Also, I'd say forced_rimming is a prime candidate to be revised; it should probably cover being forced to receive a rimjob & forced to give a rimjob.

Thirtyeight

Member

aacafah said:
Also, I'd say forced_rimming is a prime candidate to be revised; it should probably cover being forced to receive a rimjob & forced to give a rimjob.

Why?
That would make it almost impossible to find pictures where someone is rimming someone who doesn't want to be rimmed. I could see us having two tags: "forced to rim" and "unwanted rimjob" or something to that effect, but combining everything under one tag would render it useless.

furrypickle

Admin

thirtyeight said:
Why?
That would make it almost impossible to find pictures where someone is rimming someone who doesn't want to be rimmed. I could see us having two tags: "forced to rim" and "unwanted rimjob" or something to that effect, but combining everything under one tag would render it useless.

That is a good way of making it more clear.

Watsit

Privileged

thirtyeight said:
Why?
That would make it almost impossible to find pictures where someone is rimming someone who doesn't want to be rimmed. I could see us having two tags: "forced to rim" and "unwanted rimjob" or something to that effect, but combining everything under one tag would render it useless.

Just to note, for e6 tagging forced means unwanted/unwilling, and having "forced" in one tag and "unwanted" in another looks weird. "unwanted rimjob" would be exactly the same as forced_rimming, both being ambiguous as to whether it's receiving (forced to have their anus licked) or giving (forced to lick an anus). "forced to rim" is probably fine for giving, but "unwanted rimjob" doesn't sound as if it's referring to a character forced to have their anus licked any more or less than forced_rimming does.

Watsit

Privileged

crocogator said:
@milochu94 sub_rimming_dom is already a tag, btw. Is that what you're looking for?

Should probably be invalidated/aliased away.

When two characters that are involved in a submissive and dominant relationship involves the submissive character rimming the other character.

Aside from the rimming, doesn't sound very TWYS, since you can't see whether two characters' relationship is a dom/sub one. A tag like "forced to rim" may be the closest equivalent for many of its posts, but not all results are like that.