Topic: Spyro characters implications part 2

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #13471 is pending approval.

create implication professor_(spyro) (10) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
create implication zoe_(spyro) (10) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
create implication rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1149) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
create implication terrador (75) -> the_legend_of_spyro (907)
create implication volteer (91) -> the_legend_of_spyro (907)
create implication cyril_(spyro) (80) -> the_legend_of_spyro (907)
mass update princess_ami -> princess_ami_(spyro)
create implication princess_ami_(spyro) (0) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
create implication bentley_(spyro) (45) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
mass update agent_9 -> agent_9_(spyro)
create implication agent_9_(spyro) (0) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
create implication sgt._james_byrd (7) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
mass update the_chronicler -> the_chronicler_(spyro)
create implication the_chronicler_(spyro) (0) -> the_legend_of_spyro (907)
create implication faun_(spyro) (1908) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
create implication spinner_(spyro) (39) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
create implication krista_(spyro) (16) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
create implication lila_(spyro) (13) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
create implication sheila_the_faun_(spyro) (8) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
mass update prince_azrael -> prince_azrael_(spyro)
create implication prince_azrael_(spyro) (0) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)
mass update queen_finny -> queen_finny_(spyro)
create implication queen_finny_(spyro) (0) -> spyro_the_dragon (11283)

Reason: Second part of the Spyro characters and races implications.

The Legend of Spyro characters don't need implications for both the_legend_of_spyro and spyro_the_dragon at the same time. the_legend_of_spyro itself already implicates spyro_the_dragon so those -> spyro_the_dragon lines with those characters are redundant (I think they might even cause an error saying something like "already implicates tag through x"). The implication for something like volteer -> the_legend_of_spyro will already include spyro_the_dragon because of that existing the_legend_of_spyro -> spyro_the_dragon implication. What I like to call an implication chain.

Same thing with your part 1 having the spyro:_a_hero's_tale characters, since you actually included a line for imply spyro:_a_hero's_tale -> spyro_the_dragon, which would cover the same type of implication chain where characters implying spyro:_a_hero's_tale will automatically include spyro_the_dragon.

c6yfd said:
The Legend of Spyro characters don't need implications for both the_legend_of_spyro and spyro_the_dragon at the same time. the_legend_of_spyro itself already implicates spyro_the_dragon so those -> spyro_the_dragon lines with those characters are redundant (I think they might even cause an error saying something like "already implicates tag through x"). The implication for something like volteer -> the_legend_of_spyro will already include spyro_the_dragon because of that existing the_legend_of_spyro -> spyro_the_dragon implication. What I like to call an implication chain.

Same thing with your part 1 having the spyro:_a_hero's_tale characters, since you actually included a line for imply spyro:_a_hero's_tale -> spyro_the_dragon, which would cover the same type of implication chain where characters implying spyro:_a_hero's_tale will automatically include spyro_the_dragon.

Thanks. Corrected this so Hero's Tail and TLOS exclusive characters (which did not appear in Spyro: Shadow Legacy or Skylanders, like Ignitus and unlike others like Flame, Cynder, Ember or Malefor) are only implicated to respective games, and Hero's Tail and TLOS would in turn implicate the whole series.

Watsit

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Is the_legend_of_spyro distinguished enough to warrant its own tag? Merely having some unique elements or characters doesn't inherently make it worth its own tag if it's still largely similar to the other games. If it should be a tag, are the characters that imply it unique to those games and not likely to appear outside of it? Characters implying specific games or a specific set of games has been an issue in the past, when the character suddenly shows up in future games causing the implication to incorrectly tag the specific game(s) that the post doesn't depict.

princess_ami, agent_9, and the_chronicler seem like fairly generic names and should probably be disambiguated. Perhaps prince_azrael and queen_finny should be as well.

watsit said:
Is the_legend_of_spyro distinguished enough to warrant its own tag? MIf it should be a tag, are the characters that imply it unique to those games and not likely to appear outside of it? Characters implying specific games or a specific set of games has been an issue in the past, when the character suddenly shows up in future games causing the implication to incorrectly tag the specific game(s) that the post doesn't depict.

Very valid criticism. I only suggested implications with TLOS in case of characters were unique to this trilogy and/or TLOS movie that never came (for example, neither Spyro, Cynder, Malefor, Dark Spyro, Hunter, or Sparx are unique to TLOS, but Ignitus, Terrador, Volteer, Cyril, Gaul, Nina, Cynder's currupt and dark form, the Chronicler so far are). Not excluding the possibility of them returning in one or another way outside of TLOS, though. I agree that in case we have more Spyro products and suddenly one of these characters returns, it would require to change implication from TLOS to a more general spyro_the_dragon. Same with A Hero's Tail.

I agree on that probably names such as agent_9 should be aliased to something like "agent_9_(spyro)" before creating implications with the games. Added mass update request.

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