Topic: How come "Large Penis Humiliation" art doesn't think about it much?

"Large Penis Humiliation" is an odd concept, but it makes sense that in a world where you can be anything, choosing an overly large penis would get someone to think you were compensating for something.

It humorously inverts the relationship between the penis, and the act of projecting strength to make up for what you lack.

Instead of seeing a man with a sports car and thinking his dick must be tiny, you see a wolf with a horsecock too big to fit into anyone and laugh at how insecure he must be as a man to choose this form, and what a gooner he must be to have a penis that can only be masturbated without ever copulating. It's not just rejecting the wolf form, it's rejecting the function of a penis, it's rejecting togetherness so he can lean forwards and hug his body pillow-sized cock as it ejaculates. In a world where you can be anything like VR Chat or a world of shapeshifting furries or shapeshifting magic/nanomachines/drugs, a choice like this is cringe.

In a world of furry animals, getting a giant boner in public might make characters see you as "lesser" and "more animal than person" and "less of a person and more of a sex object".

Bragging about the dick size of your Dungeons and Dragons character is cringe but forcing the party to deal with the problems and stat penalties that come with having an excessively oversized cock is worse. There's a point where "What a hilarious joke character" becomes "dude, seriously, again?". So if you're doing that thing comics do where sometimes you see the players and sometimes you see the characters, that could work.

But instead most large penis humiliation art is just characters acting like huge is cringe and bad for no real reason.

Why is that?

redphoenix42 said:
you see a wolf with a horsecock too big to fit into anyone and laugh at how insecure he must be as a man to choose this form

That only really makes sense if you're willing to break the fourth wall, or the wolf is a shapeshifter that chose his own penis size.

and what a gooner he must be to have a penis that can only be masturbated without ever copulating.

That makes more sense to me. If you want more art like that, perhaps you could be the one to make or commission it.

But instead most large penis humiliation art is just characters acting like huge is cringe and bad for no real reason.

Is that not just the premise of most small_penis_humiliation art?

redphoenix42 said:
But instead most large penis humiliation art is just characters acting like huge is cringe and bad for no real reason.

Why is that?

If it's in a school setting that's on par, youngster will bully others for almost anything... other settings yeah you may be right.

I can think of a couple reasons. One, it's easier to communicate and illustrate. Next is logistics with commissions. A simple idea with one illustration is cheaper than a comic or sequence. On top of that, the artist might not be into the kink so is likely to not grasp some of the nuance of it.

Finally, things just aren't that deep for everyone, or are deep in other ways. Maybe someone who has been shamed for having a small penis just wants to turn the tables. Maybe someone who has a large penis is uncomfortable with how that trait is usually treated. Maybe it ties into gender dysphoria. Maybe they just think it's funny.

SPH as a fetish was born from humiliation kink plus social stigma related to having a small penis, while LPH is just a mirror image of SPH.

Maybe that's why it doesn't feel as "organic", because there's no external cultural baggage? Ancient Greeks thought that large penises were a sign of barbarism, but that concept feels alien to most people today.

A lot of fetishes are done for a "cheap thrill" rather than some deep dive into details, implications and so on. Essentially, it's not that deep as regsmutt said. Simply seeing the fetish is enough to satisfy people.

large penis humilation probably just doesn't naturally lean towards the "logical" I suppose since it's generally considered desirable so you notice this more.

gattonero2001 said:
Ancient Greeks thought that large penises were a sign of barbarism, but that concept feels alien to most people today.

I would argue that this isn't quite true. Large penises are still associated with aggression and 'animalistic' behavior. It also often gets racialized- you can see these attitudes reflected in 'big black cock' type stuff.

popoto said:
large penis humilation probably just doesn't naturally lean towards the "logical" I suppose since it's generally considered desirable so you notice this more.

I'm not sure this is really true, there's definitely a point where, presented with a penis of a certain size, a sane person, knowing that they're not a cartoon animal, would say "lmao. no.".

I mean, I've seen people actually talk about, like, size creep in erotica. saying they can't find the stuff arousing because they can't imagine the feeling of taking the size to be anything other than excruciating.

gattonero2001 said:
SPH as a fetish was born from humiliation kink plus social stigma related to having a small penis, while LPH is just a mirror image of SPH.

Maybe that's why it doesn't feel as "organic", because there's no external cultural baggage? Ancient Greeks thought that large penises were a sign of barbarism, but that concept feels alien to most people today.

A mirror image... that's what it usually feels like. An arbitrary mirror image without considering what cultural or sociological reasons someone would have to feel this way and exploring the worldbuilding implications.

Like a VR chatroom where picking a model that's too sexualized to take seriously implies you're insecure and think this is the only way you would be liked.

Or a magical world where someone sees a gigantic cock and says "lmao how much money did you spend on that penis enhancement potion?" even if it's natural.

Or perhaps smaller animals would laugh at and detest penises of other species too large to take comfortably, or at all, to cope with that or make the men of their species feel better.

There could be anti-species-mixing characters who see a character with a penis too big and say "Ew, did one of your parents lay with a horse? Or a sperm whale? It isn't even the right penis shape for your species. What a sinful disgusting thing. I wonder which of your parents regrets you more."

Cause most women don't want to be impaled by a literal spear. If I was getting it on with a dude and he whips out some genetic abomination there's no way in hell I'm letting that near my rear

Now, probably not even 1 in 1000 guys actually have a cock that huge. But in drawn porn you see it a lot, so it'd be a sensible reaction if you think about it

Also, as to the whole DnD part or whatever, I'd assume dudes with small chodes probably take a level of personal offense to someone near them saying "massive donger" every few minutes, so it might be something personal and emotion-driven. Also if the party was otherwise taking things serious, constantly prattling on about your character's dick size like a pubescent middle-schooler would naturally come off as cringe

Come to think of it it's weird how rare the sentiment "lmao something that big couldn't pleasure or comfortably impregnate anything short of a giantess" is.

Why does furry art tend to focus more on pleasuring as the most important thing in the world instead of impregnating?

redphoenix42 said:
Why does furry art tend to focus more on pleasuring as the most important thing in the world instead of impregnating?

that's-- kinda the norm across the board, not just a furry thing. humans are social creatures, in general, we like the idea of providing good experiences to others, so we relate to characters who do the same.

gattonero2001 said:
SPH as a fetish was born from humiliation kink plus social stigma related to having a small penis, while LPH is just a mirror image of SPH.

Maybe that's why it doesn't feel as "organic", because there's no external cultural baggage? Ancient Greeks thought that large penises were a sign of barbarism, but that concept feels alien to most people today.

So what you're saying is we need to RETVRN (or ἐπανερχοίμεθᾰ, to be more precise).