Not to be weird but would this be orientation play considering most of the character are gay ?

lawddog said:
Not to be weird but would this be orientation play considering most of the character are gay ?

From the wiki:

This tag is often misused as a way to tag pictures that conflict with canon sexualities, which goes against TWYS.

So, no. Unless there's a reference to orientation in the image itself, it doesn't count. Outside information isn't considered when it comes to things like this.

I'm not keen on seeing a gay shark on straight art.

lawddog said:
Even so. It's still orientation play since it's the same as another edios (similar to a post in #3657243). It feel bit weird since every character in xxl woofia is openly homosexual. Regardless of TWYS

You can't tell from this image alone. Imagine tagging as if you walked up to random people on the street and asked them to describe the image. Could they tell if the characters are gay? Would they say "yeah, this buff shark built like a pre-2010 action cartoon with two dicks who is currently engaging in heterosexual activities looks gay to me." ? That's how I approach adding general tags (I have no idea about who the characters are - I am the 'random person on the street' in this case).

I just checked, oddly enough there are no orientation_(lore) tags.
edit: relevant forum post

fantasydrago30 said:
I'm not keen on seeing a gay shark on straight art.

Fair enough, it's not everyone's cup of tea, as it were. But so long as the characters involved are all done in a consenting type of way & is all above board, then it's not really a problem. Like myself, i have this one albino shark, who is gay. And i've had commissions done of him with women (some posted here), where it is all above board, consenting with both parties etc. A thing he (the character) is into, a bit of the orientation play. So yes, so long as it'd be done properly, is alright when it happens, though it isn't for everyone, which is fair enough. More of a niche thing, after all.

ecdce said:
You can't tell from this image alone. Imagine tagging as if you walked up to random people on the street and asked them to describe the image. Could they tell if the characters are gay? Would they say "yeah, this buff shark built like a pre-2010 action cartoon with two dicks who is currently engaging in heterosexual activities looks gay to me." ? That's how I approach adding general tags (I have no idea about who the characters are - I am the 'random person on the street' in this case).

I just checked, oddly enough there are no orientation_(lore) tags.
edit: relevant forum post

That why i feel like context would be very important for such post as this. But it's a shame that there no tag for orientation lore. Either way thanks for helping and being polite. E621 do need a tag that add context rather than just what they are seeing

I might act as the friend that's too woke but isn't it weird to make straight porn out of characters that canonically aren't bi/pan, seems very homophobic to me

Also could be "strange" doing porn of characters that are normally straight, putting them into gay/lesbian situations. But not as many people complain about that, but the opposite as you've mentioned, is somehow a bad thing. It isn't homophobic, that's not even the correct usage of the term, that insinuating people have a fear/are scared of those who are gay/lesbian. Which doing art like this, is not people showing they "have a fear" of same-sex content. With that, doing gay/lesbian art of straight characters, is somehow more accepted. But the opposite, is more of a no-no.

Two different sets of rules, straight to gay is fine, you don't see people complaining about that really, but gay to straight is frowned upon, then some people get up in arms. Bit hypocritical that. But like i've said, so long as the characters involved are depicted in a proper consensual setting, it isn't a problem As i've said, i've got two female characters who are lesbian, but who make an exception for this one male character who is also gay, making this exception for the two aforementioned women. But even with that, that's somehow "offensive", and a big no-no. Though all involved, are alright with it & as mentioned, are always in a good, consenting scenario. Also myself being mainly gay, a little bit into women at times, so the art wasn't commissioned by some straight guy or something. And this whole thing, some will get upset when this is mentioned/discussed downvote people etc., which is rather silly, but that's some people for you. Others have their likes & dislikes, and it is the internet after all.

Also with the author, it wasn't their intention to do G2S content with these characters, so people shouldn't get their undies in a bunch about it. Don't be going after the author/owner of the OC for wanting it done, as mentioned, they meant no harm. So at the end of the day, it seems totally fine having canonically straight characters in same-sex situations, but get rather unhappy with those who are depicted as/canonically are gay/lesbian, in straight content. Two sets of rules, one fine, one seemingly bad. Hypocriticism at work really. Just a little discussion here, so people should think about this too, you know.

dacobraman said:
Also could be "strange" doing porn of characters that are normally straight, putting them into gay/lesbian situations. But not as many people complain about that, but the opposite as you've mentioned, is somehow a bad thing. It isn't homophobic, that's not even the correct usage of the term, that insinuating people have a fear/are scared of those who are gay/lesbian. Which doing art like this, is not people showing they "have a fear" of same-sex content. With that, doing gay/lesbian art of straight characters, is somehow more accepted. But the opposite, is more of a no-no.

Two different sets of rules, straight to gay is fine, you don't see people complaining about that really, but gay to straight is frowned upon, then some people get up in arms. Bit hypocritical that. But like i've said, so long as the characters involved are depicted in a proper consensual setting, it isn't a problem As i've said, i've got two female characters who are lesbian, but who make an exception for this one male character who is also gay, making this exception for the two aforementioned women. But even with that, that's somehow "offensive", and a big no-no. Though all involved, are alright with it & as mentioned, are always in a good, consenting scenario. Also myself being mainly gay, a little bit into women at times, so the art wasn't commissioned by some straight guy or something. And this whole thing, some will get upset when this is mentioned/discussed downvote people etc., which is rather silly, but that's some people for you. Others have their likes & dislikes, and it is the internet after all.

Also with the author, it wasn't their intention to do G2S content with these characters, so people shouldn't get their undies in a bunch about it. Don't be going after the author/owner of the OC for wanting it done, as mentioned, they meant no harm. So at the end of the day, it seems totally fine having canonically straight characters in same-sex situations, but get rather unhappy with those who are depicted as/canonically are gay/lesbian, in straight content. Two sets of rules, one fine, one seemingly bad. Hypocriticism at work really. Just a little discussion here, so people should think about this too, you know.

From Google; Phobia: an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.

Also the deal with "canonically straight characters" is that most of them don't have their sexuality confirmed and most people just assume they are straight

lawddog said:
Not to be weird but would this be orientation play considering most of the character are gay ?

His Hook-Up Session and choose Golden Circlet, he specifically said "Who should I fuck? Infatuated Lovers or Newly Wedded Husbands?" Key word "Newly Wedded Husbands" He didn't say "Newly Weds" Meaning he's never interested in woman aka canonically gay, so yeah this is "gay-to-straight" and "orientation_play", I'm kinda surprised that isn't in the tags

ecdce said:
You can't tell from this image alone. Imagine tagging as if you walked up to random people on the street and asked them to describe the image. Could they tell if the characters are gay? Would they say "yeah, this buff shark built like a pre-2010 action cartoon with two dicks who is currently engaging in heterosexual activities looks gay to me." ? That's how I approach adding general tags (I have no idea about who the characters are - I am the 'random person on the street' in this case).

I just checked, oddly enough there are no orientation_(lore) tags.
edit: relevant forum post

That logic doesn't work here, yeah if you showed a random stranger they would think that but this is e621 and knowing how fast people post art here, the majority would look up " XXL Woofia" to get here and knowing the main target of that game are gay men, I won't be surprise if there are people calling it orientation play

dacobraman said:
Fair enough, it's not everyone's cup of tea, as it were. But so long as the characters involved are all done in a consenting type of way & is all above board, then it's not really a problem. Like myself, i have this one albino shark, who is gay. And i've had commissions done of him with women (some posted here), where it is all above board, consenting with both parties etc. A thing he (the character) is into, a bit of the orientation play. So yes, so long as it'd be done properly, is alright when it happens, though it isn't for everyone, which is fair enough. More of a niche thing, after all.

Some people forget that sexual orientations like heteroflexible and homoflexible also exist.

critical_stiban said:
Tossing my own hat into the ring here. I find it a little hypocritical that people are getting bent out of shape of gay characters in straight art when people have drawn PLENTY of examples of straight characters in gay art. Take for instance everybody's favorite bird daddy Kass.

post #5586359

There is many pieces of him plowing/getting plowed by dudes here but whats this? He's got a wife.
post #2400257

He also has five children with said wife.

Me being the pansexual panda here (oh right bugs bunny pfp) *cough* post #4017056 *cough*

I feel like people should not be so anal about this type of stuff if we have plenty of gay art of straight dudes. Don't get me wrong. I completely understand with the whole premise of the game being that everyone is completely gay. Yet people also forget that being LGBT+ is a myriad of flavors that include stuff like being bi and pan. Two pieces of non-canonical straight art is not grounds for gay erasure. That's absurd. Is my plans for a threesome with Code B and Code K with both my male and female panda gay erasure? Because I can claim that as bi/pan erasure. Sounds stupid right?

So everyone take a chill pill and let people have their own fun. If you want to see more gay art of the characters? Be the change you wish to see in the world. If you want straight art of gay characters? Go nuts. Have your fun. We're furries for crying out loud. Aren't we supposed to be a more accepting bunch?

(Also you can use your blacklist and be specific with said blacklist. Just add XXL_Woofia m/f on one line and your problem is solved. Don't curse out the darkness when you can light a candle.)

Copy pasting here from the other straight XXL Woofia image. Chill out y'all. Use your blacklist if you really don’t like this. Move along.

critical_stiban said:
Copy pasting here from the other straight XXL Woofia image. Chill out y'all. Use your blacklist if you really don’t like this. Move along.

Please stop trying to bring this argument. The last time someone did they were insulting and mocking everyone who disagree with that and had their comment deleted.

lawddog said:
Please stop trying to bring this argument. The last time someone did they were insulting and mocking everyone who disagree with that and had their comment deleted.

Then I will at least tap the sign that reads in bold letters to Use Your Blacklist.
Unlike them I will be reasonable here.

everyone here on about the gay shark in straight porn.
meanwhile im over here like " Thats not a Novabeast, thats clearly a wickerbeast"

Why is everyone bothered by that ? there's a ton of gay art of straight characters, why wouldn't straight people draw hot gay characters who ✨️tickles their fancy✨️ in a straight situation ??

Poor Captain Locke lol

The amount of triggered people in this comment section is absurd. There's a reason why people absolutely despise the XXLWOLFIA community because why are y'all witch hunting artists for drawing characters? It's a fictional character. There's straight characters turned gay all the time and vice versa. If you don't like it. Blacklist it. The way some of you present yourselves here is insane. Get off the internet, go outside and do something with yourselves.